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Wasted: A Memoir of Anorexia and Bulimia, by Marya Hornbacher, is a memoir that is not easily described with words and in a sense it is ineffable. The memoir touches so many different topics that are extremely relevant to society, to this day. I now understand the mentality and reasoning of individuals with eating disorders, much more clearly than I did before my completion of the book. Young females, and in some cases young males, strive to gain a certain image that places them in a "higher class," above the regular people. In our society, models are looked upon with admiration. Girls yearn to possess the thin and fit bodies of models, but it should not be a goal that adolescents set for themselves to accomplish. This book shows me all of the pressure placed upon the youth, to look a certain way. Marya Hornbacher's mother suffered through some sort of eating disorder and Marya idolized her mother. If one's own mother falls prey to the pressures of society, then how is one expected to gaze past the imperfections of oneself? Those with eating disorders are trapped in a continuous cycle that breaks after the occurrence of a drastic event. Marya Hornbacher's cycle of eating disorders broke when she was admitted into the Methodist Hospital in 1966, but the chain continuously banded and broke off, until she eventually became steady and healthy. Eating disorders are like addictions and should not be treated lightly. No matter how small an eating disorder is, it has potential to grow; therefore, one must get help and pinpoint the causes of their actions during the onset of the eating disorder. The views of society must change, because society should not have the power to drive young women into cycles of eating disorders. The other solution is a change of mentality, one that all girls and boys should possess: If one is healthy, then one should brush off all thoughts and pressures of reaching perfection. Quite frankly, perfection is indescribable and, therefore, unattainable. Anorexia and Bulimia are two disorders that have always been intriguing to me and this book excellently describes Marya Hornbacher's journey and the reasons for her struggles with eating disorders. The memoir is definitely not what i expected, but nevertheless, it provided a great deal to reflect upon.

Lesson Learned by Angel - AAngel - A, 08 Jan 2013 07:08

The title Ambulance Girl: How i Saved Myself by Becoming an EMT is straightforward and self-explanatory because the entire book is about a period in Jane Stern's life where she started to train for becoming an Emergency Medical Technician and her working as one. A few times in the entire book, she mentions how people call her "ambulance girl" when she arrives at emergencies. Therefore, she considers this her other name. Her job is always hopping on and off an ambulance car during a time of emergency. Since she is an EMT she has to stay in the ambulance with patients at any time. She gives herself this name because she wants to feel like she is the person in charge of saving other people's lives. For instance, in one of the scenes she picks up her EMT jacket and explains how it is her cape. She states, "I am after all, 'Ambulance Girl'-invincible, like Wonder Woman in a flowing cape and tights" (Stern 193). This was the part where she was visiting a patient who had suffered a stroke. She felt that she had control over saving this man's life, which is why she was feeling positive about herself. There is no question that the book's title stayed on topic with the content because the entire book was about her training and work. She wrote about every unforgettable, emergency event she had experienced while working in the Georgetown Firehouse. The title also shows how she truly saved herself because she was psychologically damaged and felt that helping people would help herself escape from depression and middle-aged angst, since she dealt with other people's problems. Upon having various psychological issues, she found a sense of well-being when she thought of herself as a person who saves others. Since she had to do what she feared the most, she learned that she could face it even though it was hard.

Title by kristineAkristineA, 08 Jan 2013 06:58

Marya Hornbacher, the author of Wasted: A Memoir of Anorexia and Bulimia, presents an intriguing mindset that is difficult to understand for one who is not acquainted with the aspects of bulimia and anorexia. "None of you ever use the nurse call button, even if you are having a heart attack, because you aren't really sick. To call a nurse would be ostentatious, as if you thought you really warranted worry, as if you were so weak as to want to get well" (Hornbacher 146). This quote displays the idea that bulimia and anorexia were not considered to be sickness, according to those with the disorders, because they felt their actions made them stronger. Deep down in their minds they knew that their actions were causing harm to themselves, but their disorders gave them a sense of control over their lives and the direction they were headed towards. This quote shows that Marya knew she was sick, but she was in denial for her own sake. She did not want to stop her acts of starvation because it gave her a sense of safety. The quote jumped off the page for me because, if Marya's statement had flipped at this point and she accepted that she was, in fact, sick, then her horrendous journey would not have lasted as long as it did. Marya's recovery might have been a bit simpler. Marya Hornbacher displays several accounts that propose her awareness of her wrongdoings, but the control and the feeling of power were, ultimately, too tempting.

Pick a Quote by Angel - AAngel - A, 08 Jan 2013 06:30

Jane Stern's scene descriptions are usually intense and full of anxiety because she is mostly nervous about any of the emergency situations. Usually when she receives a call, she knows what she has to do, but she sometimes fails to complete her task. Therefore, other EMTs take over her job in the beginning. Later on, she becomes accustomed to the emergencies, and takes action herself without failing. Regardless, she still has anxiety in her writing most likely because she has depression and a few other forms of psychological problems regarding anxiety. In one of the scenes, there was an emergency call from a person saying that her baby had drowned. When she reached the scene, she assumed that she would see a small, dead body. However, she saw an object covered in a big sheet. At this point, she had to walk over and open the sheet to see the dead body. She uses a form of repetition to raise intensity in the reader as she is moving closer to the dead body because it was the part that the real dead body was about to be discovered. Her use of anaphora clearly created the setting of the situation because I imagined the lifeless mass on the table covered with a large sheet. After using the letter "I" in the beginning of every sentence throughout the paragraph, she built a nervous and curious mood for the reader. After every sentence the intensity increased more and I became more scared to find out if it was an actual baby. Her last sentence, which stated, "I lift the blanket off and see a gigantic dead Great Dane" (Stern 170) relieved the entire situation down because now the reader imagined the setting in a way that a little baby was not included. Not only did this part make he reader nervous, but it also showed that Stern was extremely nervous herself, which is important because she has depression, making her react differently to situations.

Setting and Mood by kristineAkristineA, 08 Jan 2013 06:18

After reading and finishing the book Me Talk Pretty One Day, I realized that the first and second part have not much relation to one another. The first part was about him being a young, naïve, rebellious child. The way of him "talking pretty" would be to stop cussing, as I stated in one of my previous posts, because his language was basically consisted of all cuss words. In the following section, David Sedaris travels to France with his boyfriend, and hoped to learn French because he would be consistently visiting France. He was taking a French class in order to learn the language, rather than learn it himself. When he was speaking and trying to comfort one of his classmates in French, and when translated, he said "Much work and someday you talk pretty(Sedaris 172). He was trying to tell his friend that they are alike in many ways, which is that they cannot fluently speak French, and one day will. By the end of the book, Sedaris learns the language and speaks it very fluently, rather than only saying that one word he knew the first time he arrived. After all the trouble and confusion in the language, David Sedaris was able to complete his goal to "talk pretty".

Title by Preny AyvazianPreny Ayvazian, 08 Jan 2013 06:10

"My fear had nothing to do with the actual French people. I didn't know any actual French people. What scared me was the idea of French people I'd gotten from movies and situation comedies" (Sedaris 156).
David Sedaris was supposed to go to France for the first time with his boyfriend, but was too scared because of French people. As this quote states, Sedaris knew no French people, but based his opinion off of what he has learned through the media. Similar to my last post, this has to do with the idea of stereotyping. People in France are stereotyped, along with any other nationality (including Americans). In the movies he watched, he learned that the French are always the ones making fools of themselves, hurting one another, and are stubborn. He thinks he will be treated differently and rudely at France, considering he is American and they have never liked one another. When he actually gets to France, he will obviously feel left out because he has never been there and does not know the language, and it will take him quite a while to get over his "fear". When he actually did go, he only knew one word to last him the Summer, and was recognized by everyone for saying that one word wherever he went.

Pick a Quote by Preny AyvazianPreny Ayvazian, 08 Jan 2013 05:40

Reaching towards the end of the book, I came across an extremely meaningful quote that basically shows what Jane Stern is feeling about herself. At this point one of her emergency jobs is dealing with people who have gone crazy and need immediate help before they do reckless or dangerous things to themselves or others. One day she had a call to a crazy person's house, and she did not want to deal with any of that. She mentions, "Mental illness is shades of gray. But after a really bad call I want to detach myself from craziness, get as far away as possible. I want to live only in the pure unsullied white. Gray seems dangerous, it slips too easily into black" (Stern 182). In this quote Stern compares a terrible and crazy situation to the color gray, and a happy life to the color white. She wishes to be away from crazy people because she has psychological problems herself, and she does not want to see anyone that way. Gray is closer to black, which symbolizes either death or a completely horrible life. She wants to live in the white area, where everything is clean and clear in front of her. This quote also proved that she is capable of handling any emergency situation except the ones that have to do with crazy people.

Pick a Quote by kristineAkristineA, 08 Jan 2013 05:35

In one of the chapters, the topic of stereotyping is brought up. As David Sedaris is on a train holding on to one of the poles due to the seats being unavailable, people are around him telling one another to be careful of this man because he is French. Little do these people know that he speaks English, and can understand every single word these Americans are saying. These Americans are saying that since he is a French man, he is going to steal all their belongings, and that he also smells. Sedaris wanted to say something to the man to make a fool of him, but he was extremely entertained by all the assumptions the man made throughout the entire train ride. The man, Martin, said he probably has a partner to help him pick someones pockets. Since Sedaris is gay, he was planning on stealing his boyfriends wallet out of his back pockets and making a big scene to prove to the man he did not mean harm, but before he could do that, his boyfriend showed up and the man assumed that was his "partner in crime". They also brought up the fact he smells, even though he had just showered, and was wearing washed clothes. However, since he was French, they automatically assumed that any bad scents in a public train came from him.

Philosophy by Preny AyvazianPreny Ayvazian, 08 Jan 2013 05:11

The title of this book, Girl, Interrupted was unclear until the last section of the book. The author was hanging out with her English teacher in his apartment when she noticed a painting in the hallway. The painting was of a girl who was staring into space while her music teacher was in back of her trying to get her attention. The painting gave her a message to not follow along with the relationship she has with her teacher. She ignored it and years later, one of her boyfriends brought her back and she recognized the painting. This time she read the title of it which was Girl, Interrupted at Her Music. She received a different message from the painting this time. While that girl's life was being interrupted by her music, the author's life was being interrupted by her mental disorder and her adolescent sufferings. Both their lives were stopped because of issues in their lives and instead of living their lives, they were being interrupted. There were two other paintings on the wall. One was of a maid giving a letter to her lady, which made the lady happy. The next was a soldier and his lover, the soldier making her happy. In the middle was the interrupted girl. This symbolized how the author felt different from her surroundings, just like the girl, and how she was imperfect and failed to make others happy. The light in the interrupted girl's painting was different. This light showed reality. This light failed to show true selves. This light was life. The way I understood this was that the girl in the painting was the narrator. They were different than others. They were interrupted by events in their life, and these interruptions were wasting their time and lives. The author probably titled this memoir Girl, Interrupted because this painting had a huge impact on her life. This was the first time she was able to make a comparison with her life. She finally saw herself somewhere else and was able to compare her life to someone else's.

Title by AnnniiiiiAnnniiiii, 08 Jan 2013 04:01

Girl, Interrupted raises philosophical issues such as questions about truth, humanity, meaning, and life. The question of truth was always a main issue in the narrator's, or author's, life. She questioned whether she was sane or insane, and whether people around her were telling the truth or not. She knew she might have a disorder, but she was never sure about it because she did not believe the way she was put in the mental hospital was correct. Before she even returned to her normal state she was asked to make a decision in the beginning, and without realizing she signed herself to go into a hospital, and she was automatically "mentally ill". Until the end she questioned her sanity. There was a point in her life when she finally knew she was mentally ill, and that was when she was questioning her humanity. She had a personality disorder and that made her question herself a great amount of times. She did not like her character and that is why she attempted suicide. That also led to her questioning her humanity and thinking she is not normal and is inhumane. She also questioned the meaning of insanity. How does one know they are crazy? How can one know what disorder they have? How can one be sure they are sane? Questions like this always came to her mind and she questioned the meaning of insanity throughout her life. All these factors made up her life. She questioned her life and what it is worth. She questioned why her life was different than the rest. She questioned other people's lives and how they differed from her's.

Philosophy by AnnniiiiiAnnniiiii, 08 Jan 2013 03:16

As a memoir, I had truly enjoyed this book. It was a refreshing spin to the usually sad and complicated story lines of most other books I have read. Instead of focusing on the bad things in her life, Haven Kimmel managed to document the happy times of a child, during happy times. There was no war, no troubles; only family and friends. Another incredible thing that got to me was the fact that people actually talked to their neighbors. The way Zippy would just knock on her neighbors' doors and spend just as many nights sleeping in other peoples' homes as she would her own amazes me. It makes me want to live in a time like that. Where your neighbors can be trusted as much and sometimes more than your own family. But also something that I am not very fond of is the fact that everyone knew each other. Growing up in an Armenian community, I can really relate to Zippy. On the other hand I am also jealous of her because while I did grow up in a tight knit community, it was vastly different than hers. She would walk alone on the streets even though she was still in the first grade! My parents will not let me walk down my block without calling me on the phone a million times! A Girl Named Zippy opened doors for me in the sense of opening up my mind. It helped me see what was the meaning of family and how eventually, you are able to make your own. Also, it helped me realize that I too had amazing times as a kid, and instead of looking back at it in dismay, maybe I should try and create new ones that will be just as sweet and innocent. After rereading what I just wrote, I can see that writing in this journal is a lot easier than actually calling upon these actions; but what I can really say is that at least the book opened my eyes if not changed me.

Feelings by Ani TankazyanAni Tankazyan, 08 Jan 2013 02:20

The narrator, Susanna Kaysen, was sitting in the hospital's living room with her friends, watching television, and examining her hand. She noticed that the bones on her knuckles show but the bones between her knuckles and wrist do not. She cannot see them nor can she feel them. She feels something but feels like it is not a bone. She begins scratching her hand in order to rip off some of her skin to try to find her bones. She questions whether she has bones or not and she questions her humanity. She finally scratches some skin off and begins bleeding. Her roommate, Georgina, calls the nurse and Susanna is given medicine. Before this incident, a patient had come to the hospital who was from Mexico and despised where she lived. Torrey, the patient, wanted to be away from all the drugs and her parents' abuse, and the hospital was her only hope. She believed that all Mexico was horrible, and she was a drug addict. In order to stay at the hospital, one had to be mentally ill. Torrey's parents did not want to pay for the hospital so they made her go back to Mexico, in their household. The hospital symbolized safety to the patients. Leaving the hospital meant no more protection. Susanna's hand incident was the first event where the readers see her finally act out. After, even she realized she was for sure mentally ill, which meant she stays at the hospital, and is safe.

Imagery and Symbolism by AnnniiiiiAnnniiiii, 08 Jan 2013 02:07

The most important philosophical idea that came through in the story would have to be religion. Throughout the whole story Zippy hated religion and going to church, and I loved it. Loved the fact that a little girl who did not even get to middle school yet had managed to think of such complicated ideas. Zippy found it impossible that Jesus had resurrected from the dead and that He could return to the Father that killed Him. She refused to pray and dreaded every Sunday in which she had to wake up and go to Sunday school. Her father believed in Evolution, most probably being the cause of Zippy's uncertainty in Christianity. Even though her father was very against going to church, he never argued and sometimes would force Zippy to attend Sunday school. I can relate to Zippy's situation because even though I grew up in a completely Christian household and attend a Christian school, I still am uncertain about where I stand in my beliefs. Another puzzling fact is that even though it was clearly mentioned that Zippy was not a firm believer, in Haven Kimmel's biography, it states that she had attended seminaries at the Earlham School of Religion. This makes me wonder if she had really hated religion, or was just upset in having to go to church when she could be climbing trees and getting into all sorts of trouble.

Philosophy by Ani TankazyanAni Tankazyan, 08 Jan 2013 02:05

The most important philosophical idea that came through in the story would have to be religion. Throughout the whole story Zippy hated religion and going to church, and I loved it. Loved the fact that a little girl who did not even get to middle school yet had managed to think of such complicated ideas. Zippy found it impossible that Jesus had resurrected from the dead and that He could return to the Father that killed Him. She refused to pray and dreaded every Sunday in which she had to wake up and go to Sunday school. Her father believed in Evolution, most probably being the cause of Zippy's uncertainty in Christianity. Even though her father was very against going to church, he never argued and sometimes would force Zippy to attend Sunday school. I can relate to Zippy's situation because even though I grew up in a completely Christian household and attend a Christian school, I still am uncertain about where I stand in my beliefs. Another puzzling fact is that even though it was clearly mentioned that Zippy was not a firm believer, in Haven Kimmel's biography, it states that she had attended seminaries at the Earlham School of Religion. This makes me wonder if she had really hated religion, or was just upset in having to go to church when she could be climbing trees and getting into all sorts of trouble.

Philosophy by Ani TankazyanAni Tankazyan, 08 Jan 2013 02:04

Throughout the book, I found it very difficult to pinpoint specific symbolic meaning. Maybe it was because there were none, after all the book was meant to be a simple depiction of a simple life. Or maybe it was because I was not looking hard enough. One segment that really caught my eye was a chapter called "Chance." In this chapter, Zippy and her father are playing cards. Neither of them should actually be home considering that they have work to do and school to attend. But aside from that, Zippy decides that she does not want any of the "boy" cards, but instead wants her hand to be full of nice "girl" cards. As her father dealt her a six of clubs,Zippy asked for another card. Again Zippy was given a "boy" card and decided that she did not want it. By the time all of the cards were passed out, Zippy's father had told her that the point of the game was to win by putting all of the three matching cards on the floor. Zippy, not having any matching, lost while her father put down his cards in the first go. To me, this felt like a lesson Zippy's father tried to teach her. You do not get to choose the hand you are dealt with, but instead play the game with what you already have. Zippy's father was lucky and happened to get the right cards by chance, but if Zippy had just taken what she had, she would have had just as much of a chance of winning as her father did. This was also Haven Kimmel's way of showing that her dad was happy with what he was given and never tried to trade it in for something else. Throughout the book, Zippy's father showed his pride in his family.

Imagery and Symbolism by Ani TankazyanAni Tankazyan, 08 Jan 2013 01:50

Ashamed is just another term in the English language, but it is such an important term in the book Wasted: A Memoir of Anorexia and Bulimia. The author, Marya Hornbacher, suggests that she was ashamed of her actions and her need to binge and her need that follows bingeing: to purge. Marya was ashamed of her need and frightened by it, because it made her seem weak. Her confession of the feeling is intriguing, because of her actions that follow. She was not ashamed of being bulimic, because it gave her a feeling of control, instead, she was ashamed of needing food altogether. I was perplexed and still do not understand the mentality completely. Marya’s thoughts and feelings make sense if analyzed carefully. She did not want to have a need or reliance on any single factor and the thought of inevitable reliance was one that presented terror within her. However, her mentality is illogical because she needed food to live. Marya’s purging was brought on by self-punishment for bingeing. After she purged she would feel satisfied with herself and no longer ashamed of her previous actions. Gradually, Marya’s bulimic behavior shifted to anorexia. Marya felt stronger as she ate less, but there was never an end to her harmful acts because she was never satisfied enough with the outcome. Marya’s shame faded with her shift to anorexia, but did not disappear. She had “breakdowns” that consisted of bingeing and ultimately, her feeling of shame would arise. The term ashamed can describe Marya’s mentality and, therefore, is a prominent word in the memoir.

Picture or Word by Angel - AAngel - A, 08 Jan 2013 01:22

"'Well, aren’t you special?' Suddenly, her voice turned ice cold and she jabbed her finger at my face and hissed, 'Get one thing straight, you little son of a bitch! There is nothing you can do to impress me! Do you understand me? You are a nobody! An It! You are nonexistent! You are a bastard child! I hate you and I wish you were dead! Dead! Do you hear me? Dead!'" (Pelzer 82).

This quote comes from the scene in which Pelzer brings home a letter from his fifth grade teacher congratulating him on winning the competition for naming the new school newspaper. Filled with happiness Pelzer rushes through the door in a hurry to show the letter to his mother in hopes that for once in his life she would be proud of him or his accomplishments. however, he does not receive the response that he is anticipating. Instead, he hears the lines written above come out Roerva's mouth. And although, this is not your typical story with a plot, this is somewhat the climax of the memoir. Roerva essentially, admits to Pelzer that she hates him, and now he finally understands that her anger towards him was not caused by the booze, but it was from her heart. To Catherine Roerva, Pelzer was an it. He was no longer a human child, not to mention her child, her own flesh and blood, he was an it. She left him hopeless with nowhere to turn gazing at the torn up letter on the floor. At that very moment Pelzer just wishes he could die because nothing he could do would make him worthy of his mother's recognition. This quote in particular, is very significant because it is Roerva's final message to her son, and it portrays her true feelings about him. These words stand out due to their harsh and abusive connotation, and they foreshadow Catherine Roerva's never-ending wrath of abuse against David.

Pick a Quote by Sam SahagianSam Sahagian, 08 Jan 2013 01:19

After reading The Child Called It: One Child's Courage To Survive by David J. Pelzer I have learned much about child abuse and what a great issue it is in society today. Reading this story has inspired me to research and look into child abuse more closely. Every day up to five children in the United States die due to child abuse and every year about three million reports of child abuse are made in the United States involving nearly six million children. There are four main types of child abuse which include, physical abuse, sexual abuse, psychological and emotional abuse, and neglect. In Pelzer's case, he endured three out of these four types of child abuse. Although Catherine Roerva was extremely demented, she was not crazy enough to sexually abuse her child. However, she did force him to eat his own puke, beat him constantly, stab him, refuse to feed him, nearly burn him to death, and so on. As most would assume there is a great correlation between substance abuse and poverty and child abuse. Statistics show that child abuse most commonly occurs in poor families and with parents who use drugs or alcohol. This was certainly the case with Pelzer family. They were not the most well off family, and as if that were not enough, both his mother and father were extreme alcoholics. Plus, his father was not around very often either.

Lesson Learned by Sam SahagianSam Sahagian, 08 Jan 2013 00:36

One of Catherine Roerva's favorite types of punishment against her son was her form of the "gas-chamber". She would force David Pelzer into the bathroom and lock him in there with a bucket full of a mixture of a ammonia and clorox for hours at a time. Soon enough the oxygen in the bathroom was completely taken over by the fumes of the chemicals, making it impossible for poor David to breathe. In his description, David began to throw up blood and mucus and into the toilet, and his only source of oxygen was small heat vent that turned on periodically, therefore he had to hold his breath for several minutes at a time. As one can imagine, this is a horrible image and quite unbelievable. The fact that a mother can enforce such harsh punishment on her own son is very striking. Not only does this image symbolize the vulnerability of David Pelzer, but it also portrays the radicalness and insanity in Catherine Roerva's behavior and so called "punishment". Pelzer's use of great detail in his imagery makes the text much more compelling to read and allows the reader to connect to his pains and sorrows. When Pelzer describes his sleepless nights in the basement after vomiting blood into the sink due to his "gas-chamber" punishments, the reader can not help but feel sorry for all the troubles he has endured, and can only wish that it eventually it stops, however it does not.

Imagery and Symbolism by Sam SahagianSam Sahagian, 08 Jan 2013 00:08

After Alice Sebold had successfully won her case, she and her roommate had decided to move in with each other for the remaining years of undergraduate school. However, one day when Alice was out of the house she felt a sharp pain at 8:56 P.M. and decided to call her friend to pick her up. When they both reached the apartment they saw the police surrounding their rooms. They had finally told her that her roommate/best friend had been recently raped. The friend then admitted that she had checked the time as the rapist threw her onto the bed and it was exactly 8:56 P.M.(the same time Alice had felt pain and had called for a ride home). Alice quickly gave her best friend moral support and told her that she will get through this just like how she had couple of years ago. However, surprisingly her best friend did not want to hear it. She began to ignore Alice and did not allow her to help. They went to their friend's house that day and Alice and her best friend slept on the same bed. Alice asked her if she could hug her or if she should rub her back, but all she got in response was a rejection and finally a confession: she did not want Alice's pity or involvement and made it clear that there is nothing she could do to help. In a sense, the roommate had blamed her best friend for the rape as if she had brought her bad luck upon her. I quickly placed myself in Alice Sebold's shoes and began to feel terribly sorry for her. It must hurt for your best friend, whom you considered to be your sister to ignore you and give you the cold shoulder. The worst feeling in the world is to feel helpless. This later formed an awkward barrier between the two. If my best friend had gone through a traumatizing experience I would expect us to confide in each other, to comfort one another, and to even cry together. That vent session would have helped us both, by her knowing that I would always be there for her and for me knowing that I had done something to help. I cannot imagine losing my best friend. We have stuck with each other through thick and thin, and to imagine our friendship perishing due to an obstacle that we could have overcome together seems unreal and devastating. Once again, Alice Sebold did not fail in stimulating my emotions and making me feel as if though I had been there with her through every step of the way.

Setting and Mood by geysimongeysimon, 07 Jan 2013 07:18
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